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Draven

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Thanks to you gents I could track this new to me Longbow. I couldn't find anything regarding the history of it, I just know it was used until #60 became too heavy. I still have to find all the details regarding the material used to build it, but my first impression was: WOW! 
I did a round of photos comparing it with my Chekmate; I can't shoot it until Sunday when I have my indoor training unfortunately. 
Nock to nock is 68" it is very smooth to draw - the core looks like bamboo. It has a backset of 3/4" and the tips ARE SMALL

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It is cut deeper than the Chekmate with the grip a bit wider but if feels great in my hand. Feels heavier too without being heavy.

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I had a B50 string for it already and I braced it at 6 5/8" . I took 2 pictures to show how the core laminations are done. 1 thin strip in the middle and 2 tapered lams on the sides.

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Based on the geometry this bow exhales performance not only "One of the kind". 




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Dear God,,,put some leather on those naked sticks this is s public forum!!😊


No really you want some nice sweade I’ll send you some,,I got black grey brown and tan
No charge just for the sake of the bows

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Thanks for the offer Red but I really like the feel of the naked wood in hand. All that wood covered to make me wonder how it looks like under once I cover it ...
Stephen Graf and his book is the source of this “naked” longbow movement. All complaints go to him! And I think we are all above 18yo 😀

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My small-ish collection is naked - except the ones that are not wood and the '60 Bear Kodiak.

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This bowyer Yumi used to advertise in Traditional Bowhunter magazine if I remember correctly. Years and years ago. I will try and dig my collection out and find the add and take a photo. Built in Canada if I remember correctly.
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Yes, he was in Ontario, I was in Quebec and I didn’t know about him. When I moved in Ontario he was already in States for years.
If you have more info, please do. I actually sent him an email regarding this bow, we’ll see if I find something about it.

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I may have one of his brochures. I will look and see if I do as well. Sounds like you may have a good start.
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Thank you
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Based on the materials Jaap Koppedrayer favors, the longbow is a sandwich of superflex actionwood outer lams + clear glass and 3 lams bamboo. The riser and tip strips are unknown wood for the moment, maybe cocobolo or african blackwood




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Just an update about how it shoots: It shoots great the same heavy wood arrows I use for the #76 longbow. Being very close cut to center I had no flying problems and my guesstimate the average speed is in 160 fps range - I will confirm in spring. The mass of the riser absorbs like a sponge the shock and the bow itself points naturally - there is a 6 oz weight difference between the 2. Compared with the Chekmate this bow is better in a very subtle way.  

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I contacted Jaap and he was glad to hear one of his old longbows is still used. He couldn't remember the riser material, but he mentioned two: Madagascar Ebony or Ziricote based on the pictures I sent. The bow is on my indoor testing and it exceeds my expectations.
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Very neat looking ASL you have there Draven. The tips sure are small.
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All my Hill style bows came with leather, but I have several other bows that do not have leather. Actually, it makes no difference in how the bows handle. I think, based on wood used in the grip, many Hill bows would be prettier without leather grips, but to each his own.
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Thank you James, in person it is even more obvious how tiny are the tips. Sam, you are right. 
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I decided to take my Yumi longbow for a ride since the forecast was off - we had a sunny day instead rain. I almost forgot how fun it is to shoot the longbow using my rusty "swing-draw" after shooting "target style" until today. In December last year I bought some new wood arrows for it and I never had the chance to test the speed of the bow and arrow combo. I've shot 5 arrows 565 to 572gr based on my scale and I am impressed for a #60 bow made with no glass in the limbs - when I contacted Jaap he confirmed the bow is "natural", no glass on it. The speed was 164-166-164-165-163 for an average of 164fps. 

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The arrows are grouping good for wood and I did a short training. A final shooting at our Grizzly target from 20 yards on the warm-up area, going for a small roughed area on his shoulder, before going on the course. Pass Draven



Until I go inside with my barebow rig I will shoot this one.  

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Nice shooting, nice looking form. Youve been doing your homework, the swing draw anchor isn't really a stopping point but a place you consistently pass on the way to a good follow through.
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Thanks Nate, it is the first time I am shooting this way after almost 10 months - since we’ve talked actually. I still have things to address but it is another way to shoot that I like to have it in my pocket.
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When I was shooting I was not hearing that wood arrow on wood shelf I can hear in the movie but I decided to add a shelf protection and side plate. 

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Today I decided to have fun and I took the Yumi with me at the range. Since I didn't have a tennis ball I took one of my cat's toys - the angry bird - and played "hunting the angry bird". Throw the toy in the air behind, turn around, let it fall and try to hit it when it bounces. Since the toy was not a sphere I've shot 2 quivers of arrows - 9 arrows in the quiver - but I got it done before emptying 3rd time the quiver! These angry birds are really hard to kill!

 


And here is the bow I really like. This version of ASL with heavy riser it is on the opposite side of the spectrum compared with my DJ ASL

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I brought the kill home for the joy of my cat. 
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Good  job !
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Thank you Chuck! These kind of “silly games” are the best training tools imo.
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Looks like it was a beautiful day.  And I like how you posed the bow for a picture with the 3 arrows.  I've not seen that before.  Thanks for sharing!
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Thank you Steve. Yes, it was a great day to be outside. 
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