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There was a topic recently regarding shooting wood arrows from recurves.  Now Darren has added that class to the competition  One of the things mentioned was that recurves have to be shot off the shelf.  That got me thinking of even older times, when recurves were shot from an elevated rest, and the limbs were intentionally tillered that way, before any bower started radiusing the shelf.  Just a thought...Is it an unfair advantage to shoot from an elevated rest, and if so, why?
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Personal opinion: elevated rest it helps you tuning an arrow quicker and allows for  arrows with vanes. These are the single things I've found - and after this I got over it. When using a plunger the advantage is there, no doubt. On "trad" division here the stick on elevated rests are accepted and are not considered an advantage.
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Hi Dave, 

Recurve class has always been off the shelf in TAS rules. 


Open Class is for recurve or longbow with an elevated rest. 


Hope that helps. 


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Open class allows what kind of aiming methods? Can someone use fixed-crawl in open class? Just asking 
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Hey D, 

Open Class does allow Fixed Crawl, Stringwalking, 12” stabilizer, clicker, etc...

No sites. All the rules are printable on the website. 

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Dave, 
Advantage, yes, I would say so

Unfair...I wouldn’t go that far!

 


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To add to that, if I thought an elevated rest helped me make a clean kill on more game, I would be doing it...(hence, why I shoot a fixed crawl!)
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Tim just curious, have you ever used a fixed crawl with your ASL’s ?

you bet.... works fine
tuning is a little more challenging, but works fine

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I have found with an elevated arrow rest it is easier, quicker to tune the arrow flight, more forgiving of spine and arrow length.  I have used homemade toothbrush arrow rest that has "down give" and are very forgiving.  With that said, there is no reason that great arrow flight cannot be obtained by shooting off the shelf.  When shooting off the shelf you can change the rug to a thicker softer material to get some "down give", and you can increase center shot by building out, or change the contact point for the bottom and side of the arrow.   

The elevated arrow rest to me, especially a flipper and plunger, are an advantage in the ease of adjustment, and more versatile in adjustment to bring the bow and arrow system into tune quickly.  Plungers and flippers work, but have little appeal for a bowhunting arrow rest as the critical nature of the arrow falling off the "wire" at the most in-opportune time in a hunting shot.  I know there are those that "love them".        

I just do not hunt with a wire flipper or plunger on any bow due to the toothbrush rest being a more dependable, durable, traditional (aesthetically appealing), and KISS option for an elevated hunting arrow rest.   

In a tournament situation, shots without moving targets or awkward positioning; the biggest equipment advantage an archer could have is a clicker.  The biggest technique advantage would be a reference system of aiming. Both of these in field archery, many years ago led to new classes being developed because they were such an advantage.         

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Jim,
you bet.... works fine on ASLs

tuning is a little more challenging, but works great 

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I wouldn't have a problem with someone using a stick on rest. Personally, I don't need one.
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