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Been wanting one of these ever since I had my Chinook built. You don't see a lot around, I assume because of its 64" length. I have really come to prefer longer recurves, 62" seems just right. I had heard that the SS was even smoother than the Chinook, like a Whip with hooks. I called Dan Toelke up and asked to build a sister to my Chinook, same woods, cocobolo and micarta riser with bow bolt T/D system, black satin glass back, mango veneer belly, hard rock maple and bamboo core( I believe he did all boo on this one ).
His lead time was ridiculously short, even shorter than he quoted.

The bow was delivered yesterday, and it did not disappoint.
Specs are 64", #58@28...

I have to say this was love at first shot. It is INCREDIBLY SMOOTH AND QUIET. Longbow quiet.
As you would expect with its length, it is very stable and forgiving.
It's average speed, pretty much identical to my Widows, but considerably slower than it's Chinook sister. Than may have something to do with the SBD string and #4 draw weight the Chinook is sporting.

It is going to be very hard to decide what's goes out opening day, but right now I am thinking it will be a SUPER morning.

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62" Black Widow PTF
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60" Toelke Chinook

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Very nice Tim.  Nice wood, nice lines.  Enjoy that puppy!  Frank
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That's one sweet looking bow Tim. Enjoy it to the fullest.
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Very nice bow there! Have fun with it
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Thanks guys,
It' shoots great
First two groups last night at 17 yards
After adding the bow quiver today it's grouping 5" left
Not sure what's up with that, but I can deal with tight groups

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Tim, I have two Whips .
Dans work is just amazing and his bows shoot so very sweetly. The SS is one of the only bows left on my list that I will order one day ...

Look forward to pics of it over soon to be grilled critters.

Good stuff.

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Great shooting! Maybe the quiver is adding weight right after release?
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Good lookin' stick Tim!

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Congrats Tim. On a side note, I recently started using Dan's shooting tab. I really like it! The tab doesn't curl up in hot humid weather, or when it gets wet.
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That's beautiful Tim!  Dan builds superb bows, and judging from the tightness of those arrows in the blob......you do quite well with his handicraft!


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Thanks guys, I realize I fall in and out of love easily, but Dans bow designs really are unique. They are about as close to shooting off the knuckle as, well, shooting off the knuckle. I am puzzled by what I like so much about 2 totally different style recurves... a heavy mass weight riser as a BW and then a dramatically lighter Toelke.
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Nice Tim . That's one of my curves that I'll never sell , word of warning don't shoot a pica . Lol.
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Very nice addition to the stable.  And what a shooter!

Of course now you have me wondering whatever happened to that great looking Chinook that I sold earlier this year.  You're supposed to not let me do stuff like that.

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Hmmmm, seems like I was pretty direct about selling a Chinook being a sin....awesome bows!
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I thought I would revive this thread because I have been on a heavy riser recurve kick for some time now, and in the last week started shooting some bows that I haven’t shot in a while....

Again I am amazed at what a shooter this bow is... and I completely goes against everything I would say is important for accuracy.
It has a very small sight window which generally bugs me... It’s extremely light which typically causes my bow arm to wander...
But I think the fact that the arrow is almost sitting directly on top of your hand really works well for my high anchor and fixed crawl..( I know, I am the only person here that sees their arrow when they shoot!!!)
It is fast and deadly quiet, and with its weightlessness it actually reminds me of an ASL!

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Great looking bow Tim.  I had a similar experience with my Whip yesterday.  First time in several months since I’ve shot it, and I forgot how quick and accurate it is.  It might have to move up to #1 in the lineup for early season...
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Asking for a "friend"... how does the 64" handle in tight quarters?
One thing I missed while tinkering with recurves was the feel and lightness of the longbow.


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Asking for a "friend"... how does the 64" handle in tight quarters?
One thing I missed while tinkering with recurves was the feel and lightness of the longbow.



Chris, I hope to be able to tell you by the end of the weekend! I’m hoping to try it out on an axis doe.
I guess because of being a static it’s strung length is less than my 62” Widows so I assume it’s great in a blind

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Chris, I hope to be able to tell you by the end of the weekend! I’m hoping to try it out on an axis doe.
I guess because of being a static it’s strung length is less than my 62” Widows so I assume it’s great in a blind


Sounds like someone has some fun plans for their Easter weekend. Stay safe, weather might get pretty unpredictable.

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Recently acquired a chinook and i 'am very impressed . Very fast and light in the hand .
Glad you brought up this thread Tim as i too am considering a super static , i need to
get busy and sell the rest of my ASL's so i can afford one.
Please keep us informed on your axis hunt and , good luck .
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I’ve been dreaming of getting a Tolke . How stable is it compared to your Widow? Does the TD give a little extra mass in the riser? Is It dead after release? I abhor any “after-floppy” in the limbs after release.   I ask these questions from the perspective of shooting my 58”, 57# @26” BW SA. After 25 years I need to go down in bow weight and draw weight but my accuracy has always benefited from a little extra mass in the riser. I started shooting ASL bows in December (and I’m absolutely hooked) but they are too long to shoot from my Summit climber stand. 
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Great questions, and as much as I like the SS, it does not have any where near the stability of a PSA. It will be closer on the spectrum to an ASL in regards to riser weight. Yes, the bow bolt system adds some heft, but not much. Your “after floppy” is an excellent question because I would say if there is a shortcoming it has is the fact the long working limbs and the short riser does give it that sensation.
I would look for lighter limbs for a PSA!!

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