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I want to announce this here first🎯

T.A.S. State Trad Bowhunter Championships

To further promote the sport of archery and the use of longbows and recurves worldwide. In 2020, Traditional Archery Society will offer State Championships across the globe to compliment the Regional Championships and World Championship.

Clubs that are interested in hosting a state or regional championship should contact TAS early as possible.

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Darren Nunez
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Email:traditionalarcherysociety@yahoo.com
http://www.traditionalarcherysociety.com

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Darren, Sent you an email
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NC is in. Keep in touch, Darren.
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NC is in. Keep in touch, Darren.


Bud, I talked to Lee yesterday on the phone. North Carolina is going to have a big event!

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What would be the set-up and rules of a 'traditional bowhunter' championship?  How would it differ from those of a conventional target shooting competition like those routinely held by formal target archery organizations (NFAA, ASA, WA, IBO, etc.) ?

(followup)  Sorry, I just saw the TAS Rules list.  Overall the rules look well-structured, but a few comments/questions:

1.)  Rules say that all shooting groups must have an 'outsider' as a scorer or the group can't shoot (outsider being someone unknown to the group, assumably a lone stranger that has no group to shoot with).  I see the intent, but isn't the availability of a lone stranger rather unlikely at these events? 

2.)  Rules say no cell phones on the range, but what about participants that have an ongoing important family or business issue that requires regular monitoring/availability?

3.)  Rules say arrows must be identical in weight.  For wood arrow users this can pose an issue since rarely do woodies weigh exactly the same even if of the same spine.  From a practical sense, weight differences of less than 10 grains or so between arrows should be attainable and pose no real issues, and so should be allowed.

4.)  Rules say no sighting devices of any kind are allowed, a good rule for this venue.  I assume the tip of the arrow is considered a sighting device since the arrows themselves have to be identical in length and the arrow tip is essentially an available/alignable sighting device on every shot.  If it's not considered a sighting device, why allow some shooters to aim with their arrow tips but not allow other sighting devices?  Although not a complete fix, to help address this issue (i.e., to help level the field) the rules could/should be adjusted to require that arrows (i.e., arrow BOP) cannot extend more than 1" beyond the back of the bow. 

5.)  Rules for the HSL class allow straight limbs only, which essentially disqualifies most Hill-style ASL bows since typically they have either setback or string-follow limbs (neither of which are straight).  Is this an oversight? 

6.)  The OC class allows stabilizers, plungers, clickers, string-walking, fixed crawl, and face-walking...strange allowances given that these kinds of setups are primarily applied for target archery competitions and this one is titled/geared for bowhunters.  Doesn't this confuse the intent of the event?    


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Hello Webster,

This year is our 5th Trad Bowhunter World Championship, and this year TAS has 6 Regional Championships scheduled, one of those events is an International Championship located in Mexico.

1.) Rules say that all shooting groups must have an 'outsider' as a scorer or the group can't shoot (outsider being someone unknown to the group, assumably a lone stranger that has no group to shoot with). I see the intent, but isn't the availability of a lone stranger rather unlikely at these events?

No. It has not been.

2.) Rules say no cell phones on the range, but what about participants that have an ongoing important family or business issue that requires regular monitoring/availability?

Answer: It clearly states cell phones can be used in an emergency.

b. Using a cell phone on the shooting range. Cell phones are only to be used when the group decides there is an emergency requiring such use. Upon entering a range, all cell phones are to be switched off.

3.) Rules say arrows must be identical in weight. For wood arrow users this can pose an issue since rarely do woodies weigh exactly the same even if of the same spine. From a practical sense, weight differences of less than 10 grains or so between arrows should be attainable and pose no real issues, and so should be allowed.

Answer:Historically, when considering wood arrows +/- 10 grains is acceptable.

4) Rules say no sighting devices of any kind are allowed, a good rule for this venue. I assume the tip of the arrow is considered a sighting device since the arrows themselves have to be identical in length and the arrow tip is essentially an available/alignable sighting device on every shot. If it's not considered a sighting device, why allow some shooters to aim with their arrow tips but not allow other sighting devices? Although not a complete fix, to help address this issue (i.e., to help level the field) the rules could/should be adjusted to require that arrows (i.e., arrow BOP) cannot extend more than 1" beyond the back of the bow.

Answer: The rule states “No sighting Devices” only.

It would be hard to enforce and prove if a shooter is using the tip of the arrow, top of the shelf, the fadeout on the belly side of the bow, Index finger, or etc…

5.) Rules for the HSL class allow straight limbs only, which essentially disqualifies most Hill-style ASL bows since typically they have either setback or string-follow limbs (neither of which are straight). Is this an oversight?

Answer: Hill Style Longbows are considered straight limbed. Backset and stringfollow are still straight. R/D is not straight.

6.) The OC class allows stabilizers, plungers, clickers, string-walking, fixed crawl, and face-walking...strange allowances given that these kinds of setups are primarily applied for target archery competitions and this one is titled/geared for bowhunters. Doesn't this confuse the intent of the event?

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No. You may be surprised because there’s many archers that hunt with stabilizers and plungers. They are also hunters that use string-walking, fixed crawl, and face-walking. I know a hunter years ago that made an audible clicker that he used with an ear piece.

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I appreciate the responses, tradlongbow.  I don't agree with some of the answers, but I do appreciate that you responded.
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I appreciate the responses, tradlongbow.  I don't agree with some of the answers, but I do appreciate that you responded.


No problem.

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