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So the perennial experimentational side of me wants to try a silk thread wrap on a bow grip. I want to keep it slim and try something new.  Can you school me on that? Most especially adhesion and sealing technique. As if you were to wrap a katana, how would you go about it?
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maybe someone that wraps fishing rods
 was a guy here that did custom rods and could weave intricate patterns  in the wrap- was amazing looking

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I make Bamboo Flyrods on occasion. I use .006 Glosamers silk thread. That size I believe would be to thin for a grip. I have bought some up .004 but agian I wonder how it would hold up. Sealing is easy we use a color fastner then apply the finish over that. If the color is say black just some of the finish, I use Tru-Oil, is fine. 

  What can make or break a wrap is if the winds overlap or there are gaps in the winds. I use a jig specifically for this job. It uses some tension on the thread to ensure a tight wrap. 


  There is also nylon thread available for this process. It may or may not be as durable? I have seen some of that material in various designs. Try the website. Mudhole.com  they have all the different threads.


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Just a passing thought but what about linen?
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What I’m trying for is minimal thickness but add some texture and interest if I can. I was thinking a serving tool to apply the thread wraps (there’d be a lot). True-Oil, yes I have some of that sitting on the bench now. Hummm...

Anyone have any unique pics of silk wraps?

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I think that silk is such a small thin thread that you will be wrapping for the rest of your life. I tried it on arrows once, but only once. You need the area to be wrapped to be tacky, I like contact cement. Agree with Tru oil for finish. Good luck
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If I were to wrap a katana, I would use paracord with the core removed.
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The guy I saw doing the fancy designs on fishing rods had a big lathe like rig  (like a huge arrow crestor kinda0 and was quite a technique sensitive process- don't think a bow by hand is realistic??
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If I were to wrap a katana, I would use paracord with the core removed.


This has been my go-to favorite for several years now... the more I think a outit, the more I’m thinking it still is. 🤔

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I’ve just seen your email. If you want silk wrap, you can try silk tsuka ito - the material used for wrapping a katana handle
You can try here:

https://nihonzashi.ecwid.com/Tsuka-Ito-Silk-p115313754

there are other sources if you google “silk tsuka ito” . Japanese Silk ito is the most expensive one.

PS If I would go toward katana style wrap I would ignore ito and make stingray handle wrap. The ito and stingray on a katana are accomplishing different things than on a longbow. I think UC said about elephant leather wrap and stingray wrap on this forum. 

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Well, not finding a thread that I liked I ended up with my old favorite standby: paracord. I pulled the inner strands out as usual but this time I ironed it flat. Meaning, at a high enough temperature that it barely melted the side I was ironing. I think this cut the thickness by half again.  So I think I hit my goal of thinner. (Tho truth be told, I’ve been shooting it since my original post with no grip wrap, and, almost said to heck with it, however it a metal handled takedown so I want something there). Anyway, I secured the stripped and out ironed paracord with spray adhesive as I wrapped. Then when complete I gave it a generous coating of True-Oil as suggested by Tom. This is what it looks like now: 03FFA36C-8977-425F-9B54-66B4D13EE060.jpeg 

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Looks good to me !
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Looks good!
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Unfortunately, that grip will likely last only 2 or 3 lifetimes.  You should have planned ahead 😜

These emoji's suck, imo.

Nice job on the wrap 👍
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