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I can’t get the feeling of giant pencils out of my head. I received some test arrows 45/50 and 50/55. Two of each same length and point weight. I was pleasantly surprised at how well they shot. The 50/55 seem to fly better but I need to spend some time with them. They were close in weight to my carbons so I can’t tell any difference in speed. Time to go have some fun. 
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Where did you get your test arrows and what are you shooting them out of? 

 


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I got them from addictive archery. I’m shooting northern mist American and Sprague, 51 and 52# respectively. I’m drawing 27”. The arrows 28” w/160 grn points. 
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Yes, wood feels different and after shooting carbons it does feel like you have logs loaded on the bow. But of the three materials, wood, aluminum, and carbon I find wood arrows the quietest without having to load the string down with a bunch of fur balls.
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Sun City, Az. by way of San Diego, Ca. Bear TD's Wes Wallace Royal LB, ILF risers and various limbs, Vintage Works 1962 Kodiak reproduction made to my specs

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with my American 49#@26"  I do better with 60-65# spine 125 grain points
 and 2016 aluminums with 175 grain points

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I’m getting some noise from the arrow that I’ll have to figure out. Probably should’ve raised the nock point. 
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You said the 50/55 shoot better. Try a 125 grain tip on the 50/55. With a 160 grain tip, a 55/60 would probably be better fit.
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50-55's should be right there.  I would lower the point weight a bit.  125gr or maybe 145.  I shoot 50-55's from a 45# Bear T/D and a 48# Kota Kill-um with 145's.  Both bows are cut to center.  Your ASL's are most likely cut before center and a lower weight point is a better choice.  Frank
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They both fly great. Even better since I moved up the nock locator. I can’t discern any weak or stiff spine issues and relative to each other they seem really close except it’s notable at 30 yards (for my sorry shooting). I need to spend time with them before I settle in. I changed the nocks because they were too loose on the string and I had  some old Marco nocks that fit great. I love those nocks. Hopefully I can find some more. These arrows came with 4” feathers and I’ve decided I really like them.  
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You will likely have to move the nock locator due to the difference in the diameter of the shafts. There is nothing that feels or sounds quite like a well matched wooden arrow out of a longbow.
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I've shot nothing but wood for years.  If you're going to go traditional, might as well go really traditional.  😎
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Mister Badger - What you said made me think of primitive archery.  Knowing how things work out in life I probably would have better luck at tying a rock on the end of a stick. That’s said not to be sarcastic or facetious. I believe it focuses one to be a better hunter and a better shot. Classic David and Goliath. I’ll stick with steel broadheads although I’ve watched experienced folks fashion one from a rock to razor sharp in less time than it takes me to sharpen mine. 
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Interesting point, and a topic that comes up now and again.  What is "primitive archery"?  For that matter, what is "traditional archery"?  It's fun to kick around definitions, but there is no difinitive answer.  I like wood arrows because, among other things, they feel more "traditional" to me.  I shoot self-bows (and I'm learning to make them myself) because, as you mentioned, I actually find myself a better archer and hunter with "primitive" gear; I also enjoy the connection to my ancestors, the added challenge and satisfaction (not to say bragging rights 😏) and the do-it-yourself aspect of the whole thing.  But it doesn't do to get too dogmatic about one's own definition of "primitive" or "traditional."  I have no problems using a fiberglass bow if the situation calls for it, and I don't even get down on guys who shoot wheely bows and cross "bows" (though I sure wish I didn't have to compete against them during "archery" season).  It's all a continuum, and it's a line each individual has to draw for him/herself.  As long as someone is shooting safely, hunting conscientiously, and having a good time, it's all good.

You said it in your original post:  "Time to go have some fun."  I bet wooden arrows do feel like telephone poles after shooting carbon, just like I bet that a bare-bow feels really weird to a compound shooter.  The shoots I've been to, the wheely guys are hitting a lot more targets, and the trad guys are smiling a lot more.  I'd rather embrace the added variables and have some fun.  😊 

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After stripping the feathers and shortening the 50/55 shafts my observations are affirming what you folks are telling me. Even down to 26.875” w/160 grain point the bare shaft begins  spot on but starts showing weak after a few shots. I’m assuming that as I warm up I’m getting more out of my draw and release.  I’m going to try some lighter points but will likely bump up to 55/60 spine. Which begs the question regarding tuning and bow hunting, do you tune for cold shot?  
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"do you tune for cold shot? " I do. There really shouldn't be much difference though.
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