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This week TAS members were asked, do they prefer to shoot wood arrows with their recurve. The response from our members was, YES!

It only makes sense that we add Recurve Wood Arrows to the TAS Bowhunter World Championship.

(Recurve Class)
Wood Arrows Only, Wood Riser Only, Shooting Off the Shelf.
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That's interesting. Just curious: do you know how many "modern recurve" shooters will change the division for "recurve" division? I am asking because I've seen here a tendency of changing (weakening the competition inside the division)  instead attracting new shooters.
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That's interesting. Just curious: do you know how many "modern recurve" shooters will change the division for "recurve" division? I am asking because I've seen here a tendency of changing (weakening the competition inside the division)  instead attracting new shooters.



Who knows which members will change classes. What it does is create a class for members that want to shoot recurve wood arrows. Just like members that want to shoot longbow wood arrows.

We attract new shooters every year. Last years TAS Worlds was 200 shooters. TAS expanded in US, Mexico, and had plans for Germany before Covid19. Now, we’re discussing to add Argentina to our shoots with our new sponsor Patagonia Archery.


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Nice! Good luck with this
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Glad you got enough interest to give it a try.  I think I'm in if you can pull it off this August. Will be interested in seeing the formal class specs.  So, are we thinking just one-piece recurves?  Does "wood riser" exclude the ones with Micarta or fiberglass laminations (my BW PTF)?  I think yes to both questions.  So now I'm looking at my '53 Kodiak Special (64", #47) or my Bodnik Redman (62", #50).  Going to be a tough choice. They are totally different shooting experiences.

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Bob, 

1pc, 2, pc, or 3pc wood riser recurve, off the shelf. Bolt down or ILF.  Wood Arrows Only

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So, if you shoot carbon arrows off the shelf you are now in modern recurve with metal risers and elevated rest?
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So, if you shoot carbon arrows off the shelf you are now in modern recurve with metal risers and elevated rest?


Tim,

Modern Recurve is any arrow material, Wood, Aluminum, or carbon riser, shooting off the shelf. 

 

You would shoot Open Class with a an elevated rest. 


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Got it, thanks
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So what makes a recurve modern?  Frank

 


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So what makes a recurve modern?  Frank




(Recurve Class)
Wood Arrows Only, Wood Riser Only, Shooting Off the Shelf.

(Modern Recurve)
Any Arrow Material, Wood, Metal, or Carbon Riser, Shooting Off the Shelf.


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Got it, thanks


When we were in Texas last year shooting Blake Hunter was shooting an Bob Lee with a elevated stick on rest in Open Class. He shot almost a perfect round and took 1st Place that weekend. 

 


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Thanks Darren. Got it.  Frank
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Allowed:  Wood arrows...check.   Wood riser...check.  Off-the-shelf...check.   ILF limbs...doesn't make sense.  
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I hope you understand that ILF is nothing but a way to attach the limb to the riser. A takedown with a screw is "check" or not? The single thing that can be debated is the material of the limbs and it can be required to have wood as component. Or not. Because is not the speed but the accuracy counting aka the indian behind the string. 
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So what makes a recurve modern?  Frank

(Recurve Class)
Wood Arrows Only, Wood Riser Only, Shooting Off the Shelf.

OK, so then my old Widow MA with only two small white stripes (1/16") one on either side of a red wood strip is legal, right ?

Just asking.


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Wood riser, phenolic riser, micarta riser is okay. No Metal risers and no adjustable side plates.
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OK....  Got it, thanks.  Just wanted to be sure.  As of now, I think wife and I will be at Farmland if we see a bit of a change in the COVID #'s.  Waiting to hear from Farmland regarding my "transportation needs".  
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That's interesting. Just curious: do you know how many "modern recurve" shooters will change the division for "recurve" division? I am asking because I've seen here a tendency of changing (weakening the competition inside the division)  instead attracting new shooters.


When I first got into traditional archery, I thought there is a recurve...and a longbow. Now I find there is a longbow, a modern longbow, ILF longbow, etc. And there's a recurve, and a modern recurve and who knows what else. It is very confusing to me. Especially when all I want to do is shoot. I have been thinking about getting into some competition, not because I want to win anything, but to have fun. Now I don't know if I have the "right" bow anymore for any given shoot. It's more than I need to have going on inside my pointed little head.
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Big magic, you’re not alone! My 3D experience is VERY limited for that same reason. 

Short answer is shoot whatever you have if you just want to have fun. Most shoots are happy to take your money and not require you to turn in a card.....just go to one that you can do plenty of shooting for one entry fee....

 


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All through the 90’s and early 00’s, I competed in the NFAA/IFAA organization that started in 1938 shooting in the longbow wood arrow class. If I shot a metal or carbon arrow that would have placed me in the Traditional Class or Barebow Hunter Class. 

It only makes sense to have a Recurve Wood Arrow Class since there’s a Longbow Wood Arrow Class.


At TAS events shooters can opt to shoot for “FUN” only. Shooters can enjoy the range shooting unlimited amounts of times. 


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When I first got into traditional archery, I thought there is a recurve...and a longbow. Now I find there is a longbow, a modern longbow, ILF longbow, etc. And there's a recurve, and a modern recurve and who knows what else. It is very confusing to me. Especially when all I want to do is shoot. I have been thinking about getting into some competition, not because I want to win anything, but to have fun. Now I don't know if I have the "right" bow anymore for any given shoot. It's more than I need to have going on inside my pointed little head.


Here until 2 years ago all type of bows and arrows as long were shot off the shelf and index touching the nock were in one Traditional class. Now we changed for World Archery format who's having Longbow (and wood arrows) Instinctive division (the riser is produced of a natural or resin based material (e.g.wood, bamboo, horn, cloth, fibreglass, and a portion of the riser may include carbon/graphite or metal. The riser must be of laminated construction or one piece of wood.) and Barebow. 
But again, each Association can have its own rules and that's the beauty of it. If you go shooting for fun you just don't care about them, but if you go to compete you get the rig who's compliant with the rules. 

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