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This post was motivated by a thread in another archery forum where it was claimed by a responder that one should definitively use Olympic archers’ choices as a “gold standard” guide as to knowing whether it is better to shoot with a tab versus a glove.  I posted my opinion there also.  I then wondered whether my opinion would be challenged in a way to make me reconsider my position by those in this forum who more generally enjoy the same archery equipment types and archery activities as me.

 

I am a fan of Olympic archery as a spectator just as I am a fan of Nascar as a spectator.

 

In my opinion one cannot judge the value of archery equipment or archery shooting form for their personal archery needs based on Olympic archers unless one primarily intends to participate in Olympic-style archery. I also would not use Nascar equipment or Nascar driving methods for my personal automobile transportation needs.

 

Olympic archery is a very contrived style of archery for a unique limited archery game contest. Look at the uniform statuesque stance and very deliberate uniform shooting form that only has slight variations among Olympic archers plus is always performed on a flat surface while shooting at known distances.

 

Look at the satellite-like bows with all their antennae sprouting out in all directions. Try shooting one of those bows from a tree stand, ground blind, or when navigating through thick undergrowth while “still-hunting”.

 

A tab works best for me. It is meaningless that Olympic archers use tabs.

 

Try a glove versus tab for the types of archery that you actually want to do on a regular basis. Which works best for YOU? Which do you ENJOY most?

If one chooses a tab over a glove because a tab has been adopted as being best by Olympic archers (based on the concept and reasoning that equipment and shooting methods that work best for Olympic archers must always universally be the best), then one should also choose to use an Olympic bow setup for small game hunting, for deer hunting, and for bowfishing.  One should choose an Olympic bow setup for casual backyard shooting and for 3D shoots.  One should choose and Olympic bow setup for shooting from tree stands and ground blinds.  After all, this Olympic bow set up MUST ALWAYS be the very best otherwise the Olympic archers would not be using it!


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Today's "Archery" is very diverse in equipment and technique.  And, as time goes by, it is getting more diverse.  I liken all this to potato salad: no matter how many new variations there are, I still prefer my mother's old recipe the most!  [smile]
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I don’t choose my equipment or accessories based on any archery venue. I may take a hunting bow to a 300 round but it’s my choice as an example. I used a tab for many years simply because I could use it over a regular glove when it’s cold during hunting season. Now I live where I don’t need that protection. I started using a glove with my ASL bow and found I like it better for all my shooting. I still have BW tabs in their orginal wrappers. When I decide I want to use one I am all set. Circumstances will determine my choice of glove or tab not the venue. 
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I think, in the tab vs glove debate, the Olympic thing does apply. If there wasn’t a cleaner release with a tab, every Olympic archer in the world would not be using one!!!!!

That being said, for the rest of us, it’s all personal preference. If a guy likes a glove better, and feels like he shoots better with it, then let him have at it!!!!!!

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Mr Bisch, sometimes we know another way is "better", but we really like doing it the way we do.
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I agree with Fallhunt on this. What works well in one situation might not work in another. That fact may well influence the equipment setup one chooses. It makes absolute sense to use different tools for different archery disciplines. Use what you like. What somebody else prefers is totally irrelevant for another given archer. There is one exception to that last statement. If somebody knows of a technique or product that is unknown to a fellow archer, it is appropriate to show it to him. Then, if the friends likes what he sees, he can check it out, but if not, no harm done. As for the continual debate of tab vs, glove, WHO GIVES A DAMN? Just shoot what you like for whatever reasons you like it. There is nothing wrong with switching back and forth, either. 
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Mr Bisch, sometimes we know another way is "better", but we really like doing it the way we do.


I know that! That’s why I put the 2nd paragraph in my post above. It’s all good however you want to do it.

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The tab worked best for me when shooting target, but preferred a good fitting glove for hunting. It was easier, faster and more comfortable with heavier bows. When I shot competitively in FITA, field, indoors and practice with 48-52# I developed calluses on my fingers. Doreen Wilber probably the best ladies champion used a glove.

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  For MOST practical purposes and for most archers there isn't a nickels worth of difference in the 2.

  I've used both off and on since 1967, and for me personally, it makes no difference in speed, comfort of shooting heavier bows, handling of arrows, or anything else. For heavier bows, I use a heavier tab, just like for shooting heavier bows with a glove. I don't like shooting my 76lb. Groves very many times with my single layer, unlined deer skin glove, just like I don't like shooting it very many times with a thin, single layer tab. For an all around tab I use a version that I make that I would consider to be medium thickness. I prefer tabs because it takes me about 10 minutes to make one, and I prefer the model that I make over any other I've ever tried.

  There have been gold medals won in Olympic style events shooting with a glove, but it isn't the norm.

  All of the talk about level ground, known distance, and on and on is mostly just bunk. Prior to the "traditional revolution" tons of very successful archers used sights, and Olympic like shooting styles to very good affect for "everyday archery". From shooting targets, to shooting ducks.  Shooting at known distance is an outstanding way to learn to estimate range at unknown distance whether you actually measure it in your mind yards, steps, whatever.

  And in spite of how folks would like to draw a definitive distinction between the 2 types of archery, they have many common requirements that one must practice in order to have any level of consistent success.

  

   
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"  All of the talk about level ground, known distance, and on and on is mostly just bunk. Prior to the "traditional revolution" tons of very successful archers used sights, and Olympic like shooting styles to very good affect for "everyday archery". From shooting targets, to shooting ducks.  Shooting at known distance is an outstanding way to learn to estimate range at unknown distance whether you actually measure it in your mind yards, steps, whatever.

  And in spite of how folks would like to draw a definitive distinction between the 2 types of archery, they have many common requirements that one must practice in order to have any level of consistent success."


right on fdp!

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There are a lot of wise words in this thread.  Nice to see [thumb]
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Personally, I believe that we are all archers no matter what equipment we use. What differentiates us is our beliefs and our unwillingness to accept another’s ideas.
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There are a lot of wise words in this thread.  Nice to see [thumb]


Take the equipment out the equation.....

If you're nice to me - I don't care what you shoot, how you shoot it, or how advanced it is. Simple.

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Taking the equipment out of it, I will be shooting a crossbow next deer season with a tab.

Tab is gross. I can’t believe people still drink that stuff.
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A tab works best for me. It is meaningless that Olympic archers use tabs.

 

Try a glove versus tab for the types of archery that you actually want to do on a regular basis. Which works best for YOU? Which do you ENJOY most?



+1 and cheers to this.

After decades of tabs, it was the switch to the backquiver that prompted me to get back to the glove. But then, it was a giant learning curve on getting a glove to fit just so that the release was as clean. Ultimately that took me to the Hill glove and lots of fitting/stitching/conditioning. But I got it!

Then not too long ago, in haste I broke my routine and didn’t attach my coveted glove to my backquiver like I always do. So until it turned up, what did I grab? A tab from my “tab drawer”. And now that it has turned up, I’ve come to realize that I’m maybe not as fond of that glove as I thought I was.... yep, back to the tab for me! (And btw, dexterity and speed with backquiver is almost indistinguishable).

So until I change my mind again, the tab is just a clear winner for convenience, cost, and upkeep. Color me lazy on this one, but that’s what it’s all about and nothing to do with anything the Olympic cool-kids are doing.



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