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Flint Kemper

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I have never shot either of them. Only shot a Baraga years ago. So which do you like better? I know the American will be a little quicker because of the backset but what about at the shot with shock or harshness? Going to be mid to upper 40’s on draw weight as well if I order one. Thanks
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My American has no - none. Hand shock . And it lays right in your hand at the shot . No jumping around. Great bow
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I have both a Classic and an American with the old school grip

same poundage and length-really not a lot of difference worth fretting about, but I do seem to prefer the American for some reason -think its because of liking the looks of the old school grip

I like them both 


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The american does gain about 6 FPS in the chrono compared to the classic but where you’ll really notice the difference is the outstanding cast on the long shots. The american outcasts any longbow I’ve ever had in my hands. The american is an absolute pleasure to shoot as well. It’s stone cold dead in the hand too which is remarkable with the backset in the limbs. That being said, Steve is starting on my new american soon!
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I have to agree with Newell 38
 
the American does really cast  at distance good
 
and yea it is  a very smooth mannered bow to shoot

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I have 2 Classic’s, In my opinion they offer just enough speed and very pleasant to shoot. Steve make a really nice longbow so I’m sure you can’t go wrong with either.

I will recommend the Old School grip. That grip is the best I’ve shot.

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What exactly is the old school grip? I have an American and I'm thinking of ordering a take down
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Is the old school grip the wedge shape? Do you guys have a photo of that grip? Thanks
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I'm interested in the description of the old school grip...
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Old school grip, standard grip, swinehart grip....they all work out pretty good. The old school is more wedge like, the standard is a little more oval, and the swinehart is flat on the belly side. I can shoot them all no problem..no huge differences for me.

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Thanks Justin!
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The "Old School" grip has a tighter radius on the fadeouts allowing the limb to work farther into the handle. 

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Here's another without a Bamboo stack in the handle.1-P1080439.jpg 

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Steve - where's the magic in the Old School grip?  The shorter fades provide a longer working limb. Does that also reduce potential hand shock? Or is that the trade off you make, more hand shock for more cast? Your standard grip has always been very smooth for me to shoot.
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I’m dig’n the Swinehart personally,,,looks little narrower at the rear
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Bob, The Limb on a longbow will work into the fadeout surprisingly farther than people thing. The thicker the fadeout, the less it will work, but it will still work into the fadeout.   The Old School has thinner fadeouts allowing the limb to work farther toward the center of the longbow. It doesn't create hand shock, it just makes for a smoother pulling longbow. In a nutshell, it creates a longer working limb.
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I'd go with an American at the draw weight you stated.
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I have had both.  My Classic has the old school grip.  The American had no hand shock that I could tell.  Without a chronograph, I couldn't tell the difference in speed.  Both great bows.  These two bows were the same weight and I didn't feel I needed both so I sold one letting the buyer chose which he wanted.  He chose the American.  I have too many bows but always hate to let one go.  [frown]
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I have 2 Americans and 1 classic. I like them all.
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I have the American, I have not shot the Classic so I cant offer a comparison. However, I can tell you that I feel no shock in my American, dead in the hand, ridiculously quiet on the shot, and plenty fast.
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Shotalot . When you say I have to many bows but hate to see them go . Well I feel ya
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Shotalot . When you say I have too many bows but hate to see them go . Well I feel ya


Dan - My heart tells me there is no such thing as "too many bows".  My wallet (or is that my wife talking) tells me something entirely different.  

Can't wait to get my new Sprague from Steve so I can start thinking about the American I want him to build. The Sprague actually started out as an order for an American while we were out at the TAS Championship in May. After I shot the Sprague prototype at the London Oaks hunt, I just couldn't resist making the change. It makes me cringe to even say this, but I might have to put the 66", 56# green glass Classic up for sale to cover the American.  Especially when I am still in recovery from having to let my Whisper go late last month. I thought they were going to have to pry that one from my cold, dead fingers.  

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I had one of Mr Turays Classics.... a beautiful and fine shooting bow. Perfect lines..... no matter which bow of his you get it will be a winner as he doesnt make a bad bow. Had a issue with the muscle/bone in my arm so I sold it [frown] Wish I still had it as im bowless.... after I get back to work off of sick leave ill have another ASL. I miss pulling a string thats for sure 😉
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