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Comanche1

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I watched several videos on shooting methods this week. A couple had some explanations of the split vision method, instinctive, gap, string walking, etc. Although I have never been able to identify exactly how I go about directing the arrow, I discovered that I have always shot "split vision" and just didn't know it. This is after shooting these things for over 53 years.
Long story short, I have made some changes to equipment and anchor in the last few years and have been struggling, particularly with my elevation (been shooting over a lot). I discovered that those changes had resulted in the arrow being too far out in my peripheral vision to register where it was in relation to the target. It wasn't really in my sight picture without shifting focus away from the target.
One of the guys said that heavier, slower, and longer arrows would help bring the arrow more into the sight picture. So I made some heavier, slower, and longer arrows that were pretty closely spined to the bow. It has worked. I now have a real good sight picture and it is reflected in my shooting.
You reckon this is what "woke" means?
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Pretty neat
Quite often us ‘old dogs’ do learn new tricks

I am curious though, “why the heavier and slower”...?
I get the reason for the “longer”.

If you really want to see your arrow, try string walking. You will quickly see how important that sight picture actually is...

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The heavier makes the arrow drop faster, requiring more elevation when aiming...I think.
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I may have to look into those ideas. maybe I can find an answer as to why I lose concentration at the last second. 
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I have no idea what methods I use. Probably a combination of all of them. When I shoot long distances I drop my anchor point. I don’t think too much about it but realize I do it. Seems like my accuracy is wrapped up in the draw. Something about the rhythm and seeing the back of the arrow coming across my field of vision when looking at my target. If I am not confident I shift my focus off the target and to the arrow. Immediate fall apart. Seems like muscle memory plays a big part in my accuracy too, or lack there of. I was shooting at thistle pods last weekend from 5 to 7 yards at about ground level. I wasn’t doing very well. I hardly ever shoot at something that close and that close the ground. I’m changing up my practice in the woods from now on to more random targets as opposed to solely picking ones out that I’d like to shoot.
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When I can get to a good range I plan to determine how much difference I get when moving my anchor from the middle to the index finger for longer distances.
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When I can get to a good range I plan to determine how much difference I get when moving my anchor from the middle to the index finger for longer distances.


I wish I were that precise. I think I would enjoy the exercise of learning to fine tune my form. I guess some would say I shoot purely instinctive. I would say that I’m down right feral. I hope you get things worked out for you and you have many smiles along the way.
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I have been fortunate to have built a short range in my attic this winter, as we have had tons of rainy days this spring. It has allowed me to work on form like I have never done before, and it is paying off. Day, night, rain, or cold I can step out there and shoot a few shots. 
Based on some limited shots, at the distance I am shooting (12 yards) it makes about 4 to 5 inches difference in elevation between anchoring with the middle finger or the index finger in the corner of the mouth, for me anyway.
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Where can I find a comprehensive text (either written or video) on split vision?
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Here is a good video for Arrow Hunter on the difference made in anchor point. 


Concerning the longer arrows (concerning gap, but also comes into play with split vision): 


Here is the one on split vision that I thought was good. 


Regarding Blackmon's recommendations for closing the gap, raising the anchor, shooting 3 under, etc. which is needed for shooting fast, flat arrows. I don't like not having the arrow captured on the string by my index finger. The reason is because I only see out of 1 eye, and I don't want to take any chances with the arrow coming off the string and into my eye. On the anchor point, I get a lot better release with my index finger in the corner of my mouth, but I may move it up if I have to.
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Please don't flame me for this if you disagree, but after a lot of research, reading, and shooting, I believe that the vast majority of "instinctive" shooters are actually using split vision without realizing it.
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Badger, can't speak for others, but that is what I found in my case.
Since I started this thread I have made some changes and tried (again) shooting 3 under. I believe it is going to work for me.
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