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So earlier this month I signed up for a 4 month long ELB competition with the North American Chapter of the British LongBow Society (NACBLBS).  It is called the "Postal Portsmouth Competition" and is similar to the TAS Internet Championship that Darren ran only you mail/email your scores in to the organizers in the UK. No video required. You can shoot the course indoors or outdoors, but have to declare in advance.  The "Portsmouth Round" consists of 10 flights of 6 arrows at 20 yards into a 60cm target face.  The round 5-zone target is scored 9-7-5-3-1. You can shoot the round as many times as you want and just send in your best score. Then they take the best 3 of 4 monthly scores to decide who wins.

The long introduction gets me to the interesting part in that I figured I needed a lighter weight ELB to use as a "target bow" during the competition.  Since I already have several high quality Yew ELBs in the 55-60# range, I didn't want to spend a lot of money on this one.  Actually found a new one on the auction site that was reasonably priced ($178 to my door) and showed up in about a week.  The bow is 70" NTN and pulls 40# @ 28".  Made of one piece of Hickory and very light in the hand.  Has horn nocks and an inlay arrow pass on both sides and no arrow rest (not allowed according to the "official" ELB specifications.  Simple 4" long leather grip completes the bow. The grip is a little smaller around than I am used to, but it works well enough.

Took it out to the garage tonight to try to find some wood arrows that work with it.  Ended up with some 27" POC arrows at 38-40# spine with 125gr points. Have no idea what kind of speed I get out of it, but that is really not a concern given what I am using the bow for. Hope to get a chance to chase some Pennsylvania deer on Saturday, but will try to get out to the range on Sunday and shoot a scored round with the bow.  Should be interesting. Will likely also bring one of my heavier weight ELBs too and see if it makes a difference in my score.  Only have one that doesn't have an arrow rest so it will have to be the one I use. Let the games begin.

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Sounds like fun.  Good Luck!!
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Good looking bow! Did u get that from the guy that also builds the trilam and quadlam bows out of washington? I am curious cause I was really looking hard at his trilam and quadlam bows for shooting this winter. Gets too cold here to shoot my yew elb much.
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That sounds like a neat competition. I think it would be fun to participate in an ELB shoot.
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Good luck?
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Good looking bow! Did u get that from the guy that also builds the trilam and quadlam bows out of washington? I am curious cause I was really looking hard at his trilam and quadlam bows for shooting this winter. Gets too cold here to shoot my yew elb much.


seller goes by "archeybowman" and regularly has about a dozen ELBs of various types and weights available at any time. don't think he does any trilams though. located in Ellensburg, WA.

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Have fun with it, Bob!!!!

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Here we go again. Snuck out during lunch to try to get another 60 arrows in for score. While I was warming the bow up it exploded in my hand. Only the 3rd short pull so it was nowhere near my face yet.

The outside air temp was 39 degrees and the bow temp was probably 45. Suspect there was just a weak spot that finally gave way. Shot it yesterday under similar temperatures without incident.

Now I think I will just shoot the new ELB I got from Jay St Charles for the rest of the competition. A little heavy for 60 arrows, but I will just spread them out a bit more.

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Sorry to hear that Bob.  I happens with all wood bows but never expected.
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Awe man, I hate to hear that. That's what happened to my first elb, it was a hickory selfbow. One cool day it broke right in two on the warm up draws. Since then I have always been Leary about hickory as an English longbow. I have no bow making skills or even pretend to, but I haven't bought a hickory bow since. Lol
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Just glad it happened on the warm up draws.  The bowyer has agreed to make me a replacement for free.  I count that as a credit to him. Given that it was only $179 to start, I really didn't expect much of a warranty.
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That's awesome! Glad to hear he is taking care of it. I thought I had read about a warranty. I been looking at his trilam he makes bamboo and hickory backed trilam. Not a fan of bamboo. But even less a fan of hickory. But it might be fine as a backing. I have one elb that is hickory backed yew. It's pretty nice. Wonder what to expect from the bamboo.
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I know this is an ancient thread but I had to tell my experience with hickory ELB's. I have had four self wood hickory's. They are inexpensive, so are very enticing. I bought them in increments of 30-35-40-45 pounds. At the time, I did not have any experience with them, so thought I would ease into the ELB field. For the first year or so they were all good shooters. But within three years, all developed quite noticeable set backs, to the point that they lost a lot of poundage - about 10-15#s. They still shoot but the 30#er is so weak and set back so much that I tossed it! On the other hand I have two self wood hickory flatbows from the same bowyer which DID suffer a little set back but only losing 5#'s or so and have remained good, stable shooters for the last five years. My conclusion is that self-wood hickory ELBs are only temporary shooters; while hickory takes kindly to the flatbow design.
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