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GaryL

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Hello Everyone,

I am curious about the Finished Grip option that HH offers. All of my ASL's have some type of leather grip on them, however, I have a couple of R/D bows and re-curves with no wrap on them, just the naked riser.  

I really like the feel of the unwrapped grip on those bows but I have not seen any unwrapped ASL pics on this forum yet.

Is is just personal preference or is there another reason that you don't see many? Maybe an increase in hand shock?

Also if anybody has a picture of what the HH "Finished Grip" option looks like I would love to see it!

There is a $35 extra charge for this option so I would be interested to see why that is.

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$35 extra for finished does seem a bit odd.
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Gary my Yew selfbow has a bare grip and the next two that I build will probably have a bare grip,
I like it better even though a wrapped grip does make the bow look more finished.

All my bows are longbows.
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$35 extra for finished does seem a bit odd.


Thats what I thought as well, however, I think that maybe he checkers the grip?  A while back there was a HH longbow up for sale on another sight with a bare checkered grip but it was 85#, a little too heavy for me.  I was just curious if anybody knew if this is standard if you ask for no leather, maybe this is the reason for the cost and if so well worth it in my opinion.

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HH Redman 66" 58# @27"
HH Cheetah 70" 60# @28"
HH Tembo 68" 72# @28"
HH Limited Edition Rocky Mountain Bighorn Sheep 66" 60# @26"
Long River 66" 65" @28
Bear Montana 64" 55# @28"
John Strunk Ocean Spray Spirit Stick 35# @27
John Strunk Traditional Spirit 65# @26"
John Strunk Mollegabet, Yew/Bamboo Backed 45# @27
Yew Self Bow, 53# @28" (Made with John Strunk)
Pacific Ghost Osage Longbow 76# @29"
Browning Wasp 45#
73' Bear Kodiak Hunter 60" 50# @28"
Damon Howatt Cabelas Edition, 55# @28, AMO 60"


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Just a guess....if there is no leather handle wrap, then all of the work in the handle shows. That means extra care and steps must be taken to make sure things like seams between joints in laminations must not only be structurally good, but look good as well. Any added wood overlays used to shape or extend the grip must also look, as well as fit, good.

Extra time and effort often translates to more cost.

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There are pics of naked ASL in here.
I kind of doubt the handle is not done right before adding the leather by a bowyer who's doing customs.

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I visited Craig at his shop quite a few years ago and saw a couple bows in the spray booth. They were clamped on the grip area of the riser to hold them in place for spraying, and did not have a perfect finish in the grip area because they were to be covered with leather later.   A finished grip area would take more time and thus cost more to do.  

I've redone the leather grips on a couple of older Hill bows, and the finish under the leather, while sufficient to keep out moisture, was not as well done as the rest of the bow.  BTW, this isn't unique to Hill bows.  I've found that to be the case of a lot of ASLs.
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Even selfbows you have to clamp them somewhere to finish them unless you do one half at a time.

I do each limb at a time then the grip, a person making a couple bows at a time can't spend time doing each section at a time unless he charges for it.
I am sure the workmanship isn't poor and they cover it with leather, I tend to believe as was mentioned that is where they grip it for finishing it.


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My experience replacing a leather grip on a Big 5 confirms OrionII's experience and description.
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Also, maybe the unfinished grip is a better surface to hold the leather?
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