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Manuforti - Thanks for posting your experience with this. 

I like your comment "The sight picture was always the same, whether I was 80 yards or 10, I just looked higher and shot."  The swing draw motion, the bow arm elevation, the anchor, the draw arm and back tension remain the same...only the focal point changes.  Familiarity with these actions and the muscle memory involved from shot to shot certainly breed consistency.

You bring up an interesting point.....moving targets.  My thought on this (as a life long shot gunner) are "don't we already aim off-targe when leading?"  I don't think it would be that much of a stretch to incorporate an above or below, as well as ahead of the target focal point when doing so, but I think a lot of that would be governed by how much time one has to prepare the shot, and if that target is moving at a consistent pace. 

Thanks for the food for thought!

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Tom M - Your comment of "leftidious" brings up an experience from many years ago.  I had a coach one time have me stand about 15 yards from a target with stripe running top to bottom.  He would have me take my stance while focusing on that line, and then he would have me come to full draw, but with the arrow not on the string, and without pulling the string (hope that made sense).  He would then ask me where was my arrow pointing?  I was actually off to the right.  He adjusted my stance (opening it up) so that my natural draw would bring the bow up "on target".  Simple, yet effective for me.  

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Draven
Green wrote:
Manuforti - Thanks for posting your experience with this. 

I like your comment "The sight picture was always the same, whether I was 80 yards or 10, I just looked higher and shot."  The swing draw motion, the bow arm elevation, the anchor, the draw arm and back tension remain the same...only the focal point changes.  Familiarity with these actions and the muscle memory involved from shot to shot certainly breed consistency.
 

This is interesting to read it is working since at the end it is an intuitive pic-a-point aiming method applied to the swing-draw. You look where the arrow is not hitting basically - you just know it will hit
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Draven wrote:
 

This is interesting to read it is working since at the end it is an intuitive pic-a-point aiming method applied to the swing-draw. You look where the arrow is not hitting basically - you just know it will hit


Draven - I did catch your reference to Pick a Point earlier.  Unfortunately this thread went so far off into the ditch that I forgot to respond to it.  I had heard the term years ago, and forgotten about it until your mention.  That's exactly what's being utilized here.

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ManuForti

Green wrote:
You bring up an interesting point.....moving targets.  My thought on this (as a life long shot gunner) are "don't we already aim off-targe when leading?"  I don't think it would be that much of a stretch to incorporate an above or below, as well as ahead of the target focal point when doing so, but I think a lot of that would be governed by how much time one has to prepare the shot, and if that target is moving at a consistent pace. 


Yes, quite right. We do exactly that when shotgunning. I’ve always kept my eye on the bird in flight though while taking my shotgunning lead. I shoot mainly at quail, which dart all over the place. I had a real hard time trying to shoot at moving targets with my bow and not focus on the object in motion, which is what I did with stationary targets, as you’ve described well. That’s when I knew I had to learn to focus on the target itself, and allow my hand to move intuitively in response to the target’s distance, speed, elevation, etc. It took me a while to make that change, but it was well worth it for me. I kinda liked just looking above the target for those years and keeping everything the same. Made it really simple. I just couldn’t make the transfer to moving targets. But I wouldn’t be at all surprised if you can. 

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