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Can I use a B-55 endless loop on my longbows and recurves?
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Yes, it's okay to use. 
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Yes and yes. What type you use is more of a personal preference. For years endless loop strings came on 99.9% of the factory bows made. One big reason Flemish twist became and is popular is the string doesn’t require a large jig so lots of folks make their own. Some say they are quieter but I haven’t noticed that. I use both on my recurves, my LB I still have a twist string on it. Of course there are those who say putting an endless loop string on an ASL bow is blasphemy. On that point you will be on your own. 
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I make flemish twist and do prefer them over endless loop in either B50 or low stretch sting materials. Flemish strings are by far quieter than endless loop strings to my ears. And, yes you can use them on recurves or longbows. JMHO.
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I've been using endless strings on my ASL's in recent years.  Never had a problem, and in my mind (a dangerous place), I think they are a bit quicker than a Flemish.  Only a personal unsubstantiated observation.
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Yes you can. I've never noticed a difference in the quietness from one type of string to the other UNLESS the endless loop string had the loops served with monofilament.

My preference is for a braided string. 3 strand braid through the loops and 4 strand braid in the splices regardless of the material used.
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I thought I can use them on my bows. I was thinking the bow wouldn't know what is being wrapped around the string groove if it is same string material and the same number of strands. I didn't think the way the loop is served should make a difference but hey, I'm not the brightest bulb in the box sometimes. I might build a jig and give it a try just for the heck of it.
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Endless loop has less give than Flemish twist.
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A well made endless loop string that is finished correctly will definitely NOT be any noisier than a Flemish twist. If it is,then they have no idea on making strings.
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The part where the serving ties the loop together will slap "different" than similar area not served of a flemish. I can say it is a bit noisier due to that. This is my experience when I actually could compare both type of strings of same material on same bow. 
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Draven, Can I wrap (serve) the string loops with the same B 55 string material that I do for making the string? What do you supposed would be the result if I did?

I thought that if I pre-stretched it, that it should function ok. Being the novice that I am, clearly I haven't learned everything there is to know about making strings.

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I am guessing, The purpose of the wraps is to strengthen the string at wear points, as well, maybe, as adding a bit of size or padding in critical areas.  B50 or 55 is probably not suitable for this role, although i guess anything could work for a while.  I have seen fishing braid and some of the stiffer monofilaments used for this.  You can experiment with either.  Or, just acquire modern serving material.

Building a string (either format) is not so difficult after you have a few under your belt.  Youtube videos are available for training.

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I used B50 for serving and loops once when in a pinch.  It worked without issues but other than the "pinch" there's no real reason to do it.  For economy,  #4 nylon is the way to go but, OTOH, I usually end up reserving it due to wear. 
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I am guessing, The purpose of the wraps is to strengthen the string at wear points, as well, maybe, as adding a bit of size or padding in critical areas.  B50 or 55 is probably not suitable for this role, although i guess anything could work for a while.  I have seen fishing braid and some of the stiffer monofilaments used for this.  You can experiment with either.  Or, just acquire modern serving material.

Building a string (either format) is not so difficult after you have a few under your belt.  Youtube videos are available for training.


Chuck, for me it's just one of those "I wonder" moments. For me, it's more for the aesthetics. I like the way the endless loops look. That's all. I might try one or two just for the heck of it.

If it doesn't turn out, I can always keep making them how I have been. I'm starting to get it down now so at least I know those strings will be fine. 
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