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I have a 10 day elk hunt planned for Sept. The last time I went elk hunting was when I was 35yrs old. I am 55 now. I am anticipating being very sore for a portion, if not all, of my time in the mountains. I know they make electrolyte supplements and powder type muscle recovery drinks to aid in repairing sore muscles. Have any of you used these products before and if so, did they work for you? 

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Thanks,TB!
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Does bourbon count as a supplement ?
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I sometimes take Ibuprofen and often use creams and various rubs. Sometimes, I agree with chuckc's remedy. Nothing does much good, because I have a bum shoulder that is probably going to need surgery when local medical facilities can get to it.
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Longbow.... coupla comments.it is dry and the sun is about a million miles closer  up there.  Drink what you think you need then drink more.

At minimum...a few weeks before the hunt start walking stairs.  Up and down, or a large steep hill if you got one.  The idea is to get the muscles past the hurt phase we always get when we start exercising .  Then...take it easy.

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Does bourbon count as a supplement ?


Yes, and that will be part of my recovery libation!
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Longbow.... coupla comments.it is dry and the sun is about a million miles closer  up there.  Drink what you think you need then drink more.

At minimum...a few weeks before the hunt start walking stairs.  Up and down, or a large steep hill if you got one.  The idea is to get the muscles past the hurt phase we always get when we start exercising .  Then...take it easy.


Thanks. Great advice!
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Never been elk hunting, but I did a lot of mountain hunting while I lived in Alaska. There is no substitute for getting yourself in shape before you go. Hike with a pack on your back. Find hills to hike up and down. If you're packing in, invest in some hiking sticks (don't skrimp here). I've hunted with guys that thought they were in good shape and ended up being miserable...
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All of the above advice is spot on, including Chuck's 😁  I suffer from cramping in my legs even when I am not on the mountain. I did some researching and found that long distance bicycle riders use magnesium among other things for relief of stressed muscles.  One of the products that I used is called Sports Legs that I bought on Amazon. It helped a bunch.  You use a capsule for every 50 pounds of body weight every 4 hours or so with plenty of water, including before you set out for the day.  Since then, I buy bulk powdered magnesium citrate from a supplement company - much less expensive. They even have a manual (inexpensive) capsule filler and capsules.  The capsules are easy to carry for use - just have to remember to use them while hunting and before sleeping bag time.
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It's important to understand electrolyte replacement: As we sweat, we are losing electrolytes. If! we're drinking enough water(not Bourbon or my preference Scotch) we're flushing electrolytes. We need to replenish. If we're drinking enough water, we use what we need and flush what we don't through sweat and urine. Life is good. We sweat out and pee out the waste and acids that make muscles sore. Our nervous system fires like it should. Our brain, heart and muscles are working well and can deal with additional stress. 
Here's the fine print: As ambient temp. and exercise increases, we reach a point where we can't uptake enough water to keep up. At some point we're losing faster than we gain, in other words, getting dehydrated. A trained athlete can uptake a Liter and a quarter per hour, most of us, a bit less. At 90+ degrees and moderate exercise, we're sweating(perceptible and inperceptible) more than we can uptake. The salinity (electrolyte level) of our blood goes up. Drinking electrolytes at this point makes things worse. 
There's a good saying: Drink 'till you pee copious and clear. A very slight amount of color is a good thing. More than that, pound water. If it's brown see a doctor-now.
Don't believe the marketing hype. I personally don't want to sweat international orange or zombie green. Cut it in half and start mid morning or early afternoon when you need it. The best I've found is Hydrolyte, formerly Gookenaide. Most have a bit of sugar. Noun is one that does not.
The best for me is Miso. Miso is not a brand. It's a bean paste w/ salt, protien and other goodies, usually consumed as soup.  If I don't have it, I get leg cramps. If I do It's like magic. You can find it in freeze dried form. Just make sure it has no MSG.
I guess you've been in the mountains before, so you know the increase in UV exposure. As for other altitude issues, I like Yerba Mate, as do generations of Andeans.  If you can't find it, let me know.  
As muscle recovery goes, Miso is the best for me. And then some good single malt and a bowl of English pipe tobacco. 
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I was basically told the same details that fewfeathers said by a fitness expert. Then at the end of the conversation he said "in a nutshell, drink plenty of water, Gatorade or Powerade, make sure that you drink equal water to the Gatorade. Do not drink strictly GA or PA.  Take apple cider vinegar or pickle juice to prevent it relieve muscle cramps ( this is an old fashion remedy btw).  Eat a pickle or 2 before bed. "
Another guy told me to "drink enough water to equal 4 to 6 of those 16.9 oz water bottles. If you still have water left when you get back to camp you haven't drank enough."

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The best I've tried....

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Great stuff, guys! Thank you all!
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The main thing is to take plenty of fluids with great attention to electrolytes. Be sure to consult with your doctor. Pick a spot and shoot straight. Good luck!.
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Hill Wesley Special (2, both 65#)
Hill Cheetah (2, one 55# and one 40#)
Hill Big 5 (50#)
NM Shelton (2, both 53#)
Deathwish Longbow (59#)
Archery Traditions Bamboo Longhunter (3, one 56#, one 60# and one 78#)

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The main thing is to take plenty of fluids with great attention to electrolytes. Be sure to consult with your doctor. Pick a spot and shoot straight. Good luck!.


Thanks, Sam.
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