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This is a '89 Super Diablo, zebrawood riser, red elm limbs and my one piece beastie recurve: #70@28", 60" AMO. I added a Cobra camo stab on it and it became my "go to" indoor bow these days, replacing my Royal Hunter. Long story short, DH products are up there in terms of speed, handling and design. 

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They are fast.  I had one similar that I sold a year ago.  It was right handed and no longer getting shot by me.  It is a fast bow and puts arrows clean thru deer when you do your part.   Mine did not have the built up pad for the stabilizer.
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This guy IS fast and I have no doubt it can do the job on even scarier critters than a deer. And it is a tack driver.
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That is a looker Draven...
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Thanks Tim. A hard hitter and a real joy to shoot. It is no less than Mamba.
 
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I have a brand new, basically unshot #65 Hunter than I’m gonna send on a Canadian vacation one of these days . Be curious to see what you think of it.
SUPPOSEDLY was built in the early 90’s and was recently found in a warehouse. Was unshot when I bought it

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That should be a very good shooter Tim! They created the Super D at 60" because there was a niche to cover, Hunter is 62" and not many changes in geometry were done since the beginning - it says something about the design.

Back to Super D, the handle is different than Mamba's. It is a medium wrist grip with a more pronounced thumb rest that is forcing the hand to stay in same way, every time.

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I took a picture side by side of the two heavy bows - SD and RH. Even if on the bows the written difference is #4, the feel is the same and I shoot the same arrow without tuning problems. Interesting to see the difference in size of limb thickness and geometry - even if one is takedown and one one-piece.

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Those limbs look very different in terms of pre- load upon stringing. Before you even draw it APPEARS the the DH bow on the left is under more stress. As i said....appears.
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Yes Chuck, their design is different. Mamba is the same, preload is already there - the angle when the limb goes off the riser (if I can say this) is steeper on DH bows. Just '60 Bear Kodiak has this geometry and it shoots an arrow faster compared with others. I will really like to do a speed test in spring for these bows. SD is faster with same arrow, but not by much compared with the RH when eyeballing. RH gains a bit on the curl what it is losing on the limb angle.

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But I think a Mamba in #70 will leave them both in dust - speed wise - due to limb design. 


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I weighted the bows.
Royal Hunter is 2.64 lbs
Super Diablo is 2.15 lbs
These bows are light weighted for their poundage.

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I shot last night my SD indoor 20 yards. I did some minor changes to the shelf set-up. Initial set-up was with Bear hair rest and side plate combo. Yesterday I changed it with feather rest and velcro side plate. Nothing special, but I placed the feather rest in a way that brings the position of the arrow when touching the feather rest almost on top of the pivot point of the handle. This helped my shooting - the small change pushed further my accuracy with this bow. Is not the first elevated rest I use on a vintage bow but it is the first time when I really tried to get as close as possible the arrow pivot point above the handle pivot point because I had the space.

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It may look weird with small rest and big empty side window but I don't care. Arrow leaves the bow without a noise and I had 2 busted nocks at the end of 1 hour training as proof that tuning a bow against grip torque adds points for the accuracy.




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...and it doubles as a pool cue! LOL
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LOL, when it keeps 6 arrows in 5" ring at 20 yards I am ready to make even more adjustments and call it whatever is necessary [biggrin][biggrin][biggrin]
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Son of jack Howard jet !
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Interesting. I always thought JH jets are custom and slightly improved (maybe) DH bows. It's scary how much a Jet resembles with a Ventura or a 2"-4" longer Hunter.


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I went last week with the SD on the course to keep myself in check. It shoots great if I am doing my part. Walk - out 16 to 26 yards, 6 arrows. 



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Nice shootin' Draven. I have a 1972 SD..50#. A screamer...
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Thank you jackdaw. SD is a great bow
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Great shooting

I appreciate that you show the entire session, not just a pic of your best arrows(like I do)!

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Thank you Tim. 
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Just an update. I went again with it on the course and I had the chance to speed test it after 1.5h of training with it.
172-170-170-171-171 fps with 590gr arrow - GT Traditional Classic 340, 80 insert +125 field point. Reasonably fast for an oldie with Dacron string. For me the 12oz hunting stab is not an option on this bow - it's a match made in the heaven.

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Draven,
I just picked up a 60lb just like yours -- what brace height are you at measuring to deepest part of the grip? Thanks!
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Hi Fletch36, I've answered to the question in pm (is where I've seen it first time). 7 3/4" 
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