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I received a BB riser made by Loc Do. The riser is machined not with plates installed to accept ILF, 21" and I guesstimate around 4.5 lbs. It came with a springy rest I really like and a custom leather handle. I mounted a pair of TradTech wood-glass limbs #60 that on the BB feel like #57 (I will weight it soon) and a 12oz stab, and this bow is a beast. With a brace height at 8 1/4" and bolts down it shoots my 640gr arrows with authority and is no dog at all. Eyeballing, I think it spits the arrow in the upper 160 low 170 fps. I have to confirm in spring when I go back to 3D course and is definitely faster than my Mamba or SK while shooting same arrow. I used a FF string and some beaver silencers I had sitting around and this bow is dead silent with the heavy arrow.

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PS I weighted the bow (riser + limbs) and it came at a whooping 4.42lbs (2kg)


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Very nice! Can't wait to see some groups.
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Thank you. For the moment is winter here, today are just -28C with wind factor feels like -39C so shooting outside is a big nono. I will take it indoor Wednesday, but I can't shoot more than 20 yards there. At 12 paces it's a nailer. I have to wait months to see how it works at 30-40 yards though.
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That’s a great riser for making a Warf. My first Warf was a B.B. riser mated to some carbon wood limbs from Korea. Mine was done by Bob Gordon the father of Warf’s and his dog, Warf. I loved the grip and the shelf was radiused so I shot it off the shelf as well as with a springy rest. Only reason I sold it was as you mentioned, a beast! It got real heavy after about 20 targets of a 42 target 3D shoot. Now I have a Hoyt Rambo riser and my latest a Ben Pearson Equalizer with SF Extremes carbon/foam limbs. About 44#. Shoots great and will make me a great 3D bow
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Sun City, Az. by way of San Diego, Ca. Bear TD's Wes Wallace Royal LB, ILF risers and various limbs, Vintage Works 1962 Kodiak reproduction made to my specs

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That's very nice!  Please post some chrono figures when you can.  I have a BB riser on the shelf but it doesn't have those openings in the window like yours.  I'm trying to avoid getting drawn into ILF.  It's another money and brain pit.[smile]  What  was Loc Do's fee for the milling excluding shipping?
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Thanks gents.
Longcruise I will, but will take a while. I am not the first owner, I don’t know how much Loc Do charges. I talked with him on tradtalk but he was saying that these days is cheaper to buy of the shelf risers than warfing one. He might be right if you add compound riser cost, shipping two ways and work. You can try to talk with him on tradtalk. His handle is jonhdo there.
Tom, I have a Proline riser too, is not yet refinished but for this one I have plates so I tried it with the same limbs. It’s faster with same arrow, I guess in 180fps area.
It looks like these warfs will get my attention for a while.

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I thought about the plates too and I think that would be a good option.  Hard for me to get committed to it cause I know I'll end up building limbs too.  Another bow spiral.[smile]
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Cost me about $110. Loc also supplies new bolts. Waiting on a friend to get a riser out of China, about $80 with free shipping. I want to see the quality. He does shoot lower weights so may not have issues with riser torque. I have a set of TT carbon/wood limbs, 60# at 28”. They work great on my Rambo riser but to heavy for my Hoyt Excel riser. I bought a set of 50# TT carbon/foam and that riser loves them. I have been playing around with Warf’s and ILF for about 7 years. I haven’t used these for hunting as I like my R/D LB.
The guys over on TradTalk have been doing these Warf’s for years. Some great info and references on finding plates and fitting them.

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I was the first to cut the dovetails directly into the floors. Bob Gordan did a 1000 plus with plates.

I have two BB ILF risers and the only recurves I own. I have longs, Uukas on both mine and shoot one with wood arrows and the other with carbons.

I have done at least 800-1000 of these to ILF in the last 8-10 years.

The BB and the Hoyt Spectra/Rambo are the most popular to convert to ILF.

I have done many TD3's and other old Hoyt Risers to ILF.

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Border Hex 6.5 H #55@28" longs on 25" riser. Set #57@28" on BB riser, BH 7" tiller 1/8" positive. It shoots a 580gr arrow super fast - speed will be tested in spring.

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  That's one of my favorite risers. I use them often for my bolt down conversions.
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It is a great riser fdp and it really holds his own against my 19" Satori. The funny part is I prefer these limbs on it instead my Satori. Satori will stay with my BF Ex.
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just curious...did you purchase the riser separately, and then send it to Loc Doc, or is it a package deal?
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BB was a 2nd hand purchase, it was already as you see it. For the Proline I bought the riser and sent it to Loc and he worked on it.
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Since October I started shooting indoor, 20 yards 300 rounds - WA rules (60 arrows blue face target). Riser of choice is the Black Bear, with WNS long limbs maxed out #47@28" and VAP 400 for a 500gr arrow. 274/300 mid Oct, 275/300 2 weeks ago and 275/300 tonight. This old riser feels so good for me that I see no reason to get anything else for a better Barebow rig. With the 16oz Yost, CR-301 hunter rest and Beiter plunger, the entire bow weights a respectable 5.02 lbs. / 2280 g

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It maybe needs new finish, but will have to wait. Until gets all the paint peeled off of it.


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I decided to give the riser a new paint finish
I stripped it and painted white. I am in between stages - paint to cure before the clear coating will happen

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I've used Tremclad High Heat Enamel for colour and I will follow up with VHT Calliper Paint (clear coating).


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It's looking good. 

What was the finish before you stripped it and what did you use on it?  

I might do something to mine but don't want to mess it up.  The current finish seems to be baked on.  Maybe even a powder coat.

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It was an acrylic paint. I used this paint remover - following the instructions it was very easy to remove it. Next to it is the paint I used.

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Thanks,  Draven.  Still not sure what I'll do with it. Its not warfed, but is used as frankenbow. 
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Welcome. Mine was chipped and I want to verify a theory: string blur is easier to perceive on light colour risers - that's the reason I went for white.
If the finish is not damaged, I wouldn't paint it.

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The finish is pretty good so I should probably just leave well enough alone. 
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