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chuckc
For those that chase birds with your bow, what special equipment do you use ? Did you make it ? Buy it ? Do you have comments about it ?

I am looking for thoughts and ideas about almost all aspects from arrows to quivers to....whatever !
ChuckC

Charter Member Traditional Archery Society

I did too !

Madison, Wisconsin.   Public land hunter
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chuckc
I use both wood and carbon arrows, but i prefer wood.  I have played a lot with the fletch style.  Minimal  fletch allows it to go far and fast.  Maximum fletch stops it pretty quick. 

Finding the right combo to allow you to find arrows after the shot, yet maintain enough speed and power to actually cause devastating damage to the prey is the first game.

I have settled on three or four fletch custom cut 6" feathers. 20191002_191040.jpg these go about 80 yards when shot in the air.  A bit far, but, i had, early on, arrows that barely made it up to passing geese.  I will walk that extra, knowing a hit will do it.
ChuckC

Charter Member Traditional Archery Society

I did too !

Madison, Wisconsin.   Public land hunter
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chuckc
I have and have tried many heads.  I use a pointing dog and do not want a broadhead sticking out of a bird.  I also don't  care for broadheads flying in the air.

I found these.  Called turkey loppers.  They are three blade, replaceable heads.   They can take these turkey blades or more standard cutting blades.  It is a screw in, so i mounted screw adaptors onto wood arrows, as can be seen.

I have cut a fair number of tails and wing feathers but have not yet centered one, so  i cannot say if it works well.  They fly well.
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ChuckC

Charter Member Traditional Archery Society

I did too !

Madison, Wisconsin.   Public land hunter
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Bisch
I used field points and a small snaro bird point when I went pheasant hunting with my bow. The dog handlers would not let us use broadheads, and that’s what I would prefer to use. I got one with the field point, and knocked some feathers off a couple with the snaro.

Bisch
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Life Member - Traditional Bowhunters of Texas
Life Member - Lone Star Bowhunters Association

Primal Tech longbow 50#@29”
Primal Tech recurve 50#@29”
Sarrels Blueridge longbow 50#@29”
Sarrels Bobcatt TD recurve 50#@29.5"
Rob Green selfbow 47#@29”
Lonnie Dye composite 48#@29”

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eddie c
I haven't tried hunting but would like try more aerial shooting. I've seen several plans to make throwers but just haven't done it.
I did make a variety of flu arrows for demo at bow ed classes to show how fast those slow down. Spirals are like parachutes, 6 fletch not trimmed were right behind them. I had to walk about 150 yards to get my regular arrow.
Jackson, TN
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Hud
I have used wood, with a similar feather cut, and full/natural.  I am going to test some spiral fletch so the arrow drop around 75 ft. without getting buried under grass, snow etc.
I am going to use the large steel blunts (Expensive), .38 spc pistol cartridge (cheaper), and Judo points (expensive).  The spiral fletch can be done with a full length quill, or a short quill. It stops the flight like a parachute and makes it easier to find when shooting at birds, should you miss. I also have some Bodkin 3 blades that weigh around 115 gr. I would not use the Bodkin when hunting with my dog. When swing through the bird, think butt, belly, beak BANG! Don't stop the swing.

When using a .38 spc cartridge it fits a 11/32' dia. shaft, and 1, or 2 finishing nails (for house trim) can be drilled, or driven thru the head and cutoff, then secured with epoxy. an X pattern is effective and cheaper than a Judo point.
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Ray_G
Chuck, have you ever watched
I have only seen clips of his shooting - have never watched the full DVD.
Kustom King carries Derrick's video.  He is a very good shot and a heck of a nice guy.  I shot on an archery range with him at ground targets - no aerials.
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chuckc
I have his original video. Pretty good stuff. Problem is coming up with a thrower and enough room to safely practice.
ChuckC

Charter Member Traditional Archery Society

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Madison, Wisconsin.   Public land hunter
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Lbhunter63
My only bird was an inadvertent duck when I was about 15
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HHA - Big Five, 93@28"; Schulz American Longbow - Trophy Hunter, 83@28"; HHA - Big Five, 80@28"; Chastain - Wapiti T/D, 77@28"; Bighorn Longbow, 75@28"; Northern Mist Classic, 75@28"; Zebra - Grevy, 74@28"; HHA - Jaguar, 70@28"; HHA - Wesley Special, 70@28"; Kramer - Autumn, 70@28"; Great Plains - Rio Bravo T/D,70@28"; Kramer - Autumn, 74@30";  Kramer - Big Five, 65@28"; Ben Pearson - Hunter, 65@28"; Herter's - Perfection Mag T/D, 64@28"; Bear - Super Kodiak, 60@28"; New Wood - Legacy, 58@28"; Bear - Grizzly, 55@28"

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chuckc
I've heard of Mallards, and Woodies, but never...inadvertent..ducks. fo they taste different ?
ChuckC

Charter Member Traditional Archery Society

I did too !

Madison, Wisconsin.   Public land hunter
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longcruise
Chuck, the only launcher I ever saw was a large crossbow type of thing with surgical tubing mounted to inflexible "limbs".  The whole thing sat at about a 45 to 60 degree angle on a stand and it launched empty liter plastic pop bottles.  It worked great and with flu flus and the empty bottles nothing flew very far.
Longcruise
Colorado PUBLIC LAND HUNTER
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Lbhunter63
Yea, Chuck, they taste like chicken!
- LB - 
HHA - Big Five, 93@28"; Schulz American Longbow - Trophy Hunter, 83@28"; HHA - Big Five, 80@28"; Chastain - Wapiti T/D, 77@28"; Bighorn Longbow, 75@28"; Northern Mist Classic, 75@28"; Zebra - Grevy, 74@28"; HHA - Jaguar, 70@28"; HHA - Wesley Special, 70@28"; Kramer - Autumn, 70@28"; Great Plains - Rio Bravo T/D,70@28"; Kramer - Autumn, 74@30";  Kramer - Big Five, 65@28"; Ben Pearson - Hunter, 65@28"; Herter's - Perfection Mag T/D, 64@28"; Bear - Super Kodiak, 60@28"; New Wood - Legacy, 58@28"; Bear - Grizzly, 55@28"

Dedicated to preserving, promoting and hunting on public lands.

Club Member Traditional Archery Society and John Schulz' Shooting Straight Graduate
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steelflight
Any one ever try the snaro type heads.?
You may think before you act the question is do you listen to your own counsel.
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Hud

I think the ideal launcher would be a mechanical system to throw weighted rubber balls.  Something that would simulate the speed of a bird. Birds get up fast and a thrower can't throw it at the same speed.  The mechanical launchers for clay birds (shotgun) are small and break easily, preventing reloading, but would be preferable to hand thrown. 


I prefer to use blunts, uncut 5 - 6 inch feathers on wood shafts, nothing sharp that would result in an injured dog and $ vet bill. The only birds I have not hunted are Canadian Honkers that might require a broadhead.


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Deno
A used Tennis ball machine will work for the more serious aerial shooter.  Adjustable trajectory and speed.

Deno

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Howard Hill Wesley Special 70#
Howard Hill Big 5  65#
Jerry Hill Stalker Deluxe  60#
Jerry Hill Wildcat ll 50#


 

Northern New Jersey
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eddie c
chuckc wrote:
I've heard of Mallards, and Woodies, but never...inadvertent..ducks. fo they taste different ?


Being a former duck hunter I've tasted several different ducks. , ducks taste like what they eat. Flooded timber mallards and Woodies will eat acorns bugs and stuff if there isn't a corn, bean or rice field around.
Shovelers on the other hand will grab a mouth full of mud, squeeze it then swallow what's left. They have a muddy taste.
Jackson, TN
Charter Member Traditional Archery Society
Public Land Hunter
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Orion
I dunno, chuck.  That head could do substantial damage to a dog, I think.  

By way of practice, a good frisbee thrower person and a half dozen frisbees would get you pretty close to real bird conditions.

I use steel blunts and judos.  Haven't killed many birds flying though.  Most often it's feathers.  Have taken a bird or two running down the corn rows though.  [biggrin] 
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Shootalot
Chuck, We've had pretty good luck with Game Nabber points on pheasant and rabbits and I don't think they would hurt the dog unless you actually hit the dog.  My nephew makes them so I may be a little bias.
Gordon Jabben
Independence KS
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