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OK, I admit Im not the sharpest tool in the shed, and sometimes a really slow learner, so if this is already common knowledge, dont make me feel dumber than I already do....

I was watching the excellent Online program by Tom Clum this morning, and learned a incredibly simple trick about addressing the string...

We have all heard about how weight is supposed to be distributed differently between the three fingers on teh string, but I have NEVER been capable of achieving that, until today.

Mr Clums' dirction is to place the middle finger, with string across the joint on the string FIRST, then the index, and finally the ring finger, each with the appropriate amount of pressure.
Dont laugh, but my gosh, it works! My bottom of my ring finger was not even raw after hours of shooting!

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Thanks for passin' on the tip.  I was shooting your Wilderness Custom firs yesterday and I must've been doing it right.   They still have that "MOJO".  [smile]

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I'll give it a try

 never thought about pressure- just slide my Tab around it and go-seems to comfort itself


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Tim...maybe my tuning sucks, but i find that one bow likes a bit more pressure on top finger while another doesn't.

Thanks for the heads up.

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Very interesting! I never knew you weren’t supposed to have even distribution. I know that I pluck the string less, when I have the least pressure on my ring finger. I’ve heard that Bob Toelke is a pretty good shot, and that he shoots 2 fingers, eliminating the ring finger. I’m going to try Tom’s method tomorrow. Thank you!
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That has never been a problem. Shooting to the left that's another story
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Don’t think what he is teaching is new.

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Exactly what Jim said..……Dave, I think the challenge with two is the r]tendency to torque... the ring finger is supposed to be a guide, but almost not working...yes, my ring finger drags, causing a poor release... today really focusing on the way Tom described it almost felt like shooting with 2...amazing how his way ‘tricks’ the brain
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I think for every expert, there is a different opinion...
  • Ray Axford suggests even pressure between the fingers is the ideal.  He suggests taking the string with the first and third finger and applying some pressure before addressing the third finger to the string.
  • Robert Elmer suggests having most of the pressure on the bottom 2 fingers for more consistent shooting (this works best for me)
  • Maurice Thompson thinks like Tom Clum and complains of his "shirking first" not doing its duty.
  • Jerry Hill suggests dropping the sting from the index finger before letting to with the other two.

In the end what works best is probably dictated by the morphology of the shooters arms and hands.  It's no mystery to me why the release manufacturers do so well.  Letting go the string without messing up the shot is a constant challenge.

When I admire someone's shooting, I try to take a look at their glove/tab to see the wear pattern (inconspicuously so as to hide my jealousy).  I notice most often that for people who shoot well, the wear (or string indentions) seems to be even between the fingers.
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When I changed from thumb glove to glove and after to tab, I used the single pattern that for me makes sense: the max load to be just under the arrow nock. And I couldn't find a source who's contradicting this, from the olympic archery coaches to Howard Hill. In my short time with SD, having the middle finger the most loaded makes sense anatomically - the tendons attached to this one are on the axis of the forearm aligning the elbow with the arrow in the most natural way at full draw. The wear of a glove or tab is not an indication of finger pressure imo. The olympians are taught to release in a way that the string "gets through" the fingers - the fingers don't open voluntary. You can get similar wear no matter if you are 33-33-33 or 30-50-20 or 15-50-35
The tip is valid Tim

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Tim, have the same issue and a calloused pad on my ring finger to prove it! What module in SAM does he show this? Would be worth revisiting.
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Tim, have the same issue and a calloused pad on my ring finger to prove it! What module in SAM does he show this? Would be worth revisiting.


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Historically I have used even pressure on all three fingers. When I found problems with my shooting if I concentrated on the ring finger putting more pressure on it, you could feel more bow power and probably more concentration on the shot, the result I thought was a better shot.

There was a time many years ago where the only thing I worried about was my middle finger to my anchor point. During that time I could hit anything I wanted, much like the Hill instruction of using the ring finger as a trigger finger. Today when I try it if I do it right, the string leaves the hand so fast and quiet and right on target it amazes me. The problem I have is doing it with regularly, that I hope will someday be the norm.

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Thanks for the information. I never thought about addressing the string formally. My accuracy suffers more from poor form and my follow thru, however over time my finger pressure on the string seems to change naturally as I continue to pratice. I wonder if it becomes something different for each archer?
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Interesting.  My daughter has developed the habit of shooting with two fingers, just the index and middle.  I've been encouraging her to use three, but now I'm wondering about that.

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Anyone wanting audio lessons from Tom Clum Sr. should give a listen to "The Push Archery Podcast" - http://www.thepusharchery.com. They recorded Coaching Moments back in March 2018 before the online coaching "P.A.C.K." was developed. Great content and a stepping stone to more modern coaching methods and you can listen while doing other things....
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